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The Security Interviews: Yevgeny Dibrov, Armis

Over the past 20 to 30 years, the intelligence community has generated a stream of cyber security leaders – private cyber security companies are littered with former operatives of the American and British intelligence services.

But in Israel’s case, the intelligence-to-cyber pipeline has produced arguably the highest density of cyber security startups and organisations in the world. The likes of Check Point, CyberArk, Imperva, Palo Alto Networks and Radware can all claim links back to the Israel Defence Force’s (IDF’s) technology units.

Among these units, which likely date back to before Israel’s founding in 1948, are the highly secretive cyber weapons and tech development shop Unit 81, and the more widely known signals intelligence Unit 8200.

Israel’s astonishing concentration of cyber security talent is largely attributable to both Unit 81 and Unit 8200, whose existence has only been fairly recently acknowledged. Mossad may get international attention, but it is Unit 8200 that gets the data to support it and Unit 81 that builds the tech.

Acting as incubators for cyber security and hacking talent, these units benefit from Israel’s compulsory military service laws and intensive screening processes, which divert individuals with potential from frontline armed service, although they also scout after-school computer clubs for likely-looking candidates.

That the IDF is the wellspring of Israel’s cyber talent is these days no secret, but Armis CEO, Yevgeny Dibrov – who is allowed to say little more about the time he served in Unit 81 beyond the fact that he was there – says there’s more to the growth of Israel’s cyber community than just the hothouse conditions at the IDF.

He compares the environment to that of a startup. “When you’re a startup, when you’re building something, you don’t have much budget, but with what you have you still need to do outstanding things that differentiate a lot, that achieve a lot, and that puts you in a great place.

“We don’t have the same budget as the CIA or the NSA, maybe point one of a percent, but we have no choice. There is no other way,” he explains. “We have a lot of enemies and we want to win.”

Make the impossible possible

At first. Dibrov’s pipeline into the IT industry does not seem all that different from most other people’s – stemming from an initial schoolboy interest in computers, maths and physics – but he became hooked when he was tapped for Unit 81 as a fresh-faced teen.

“In the years I spent there I became fascinated by different capabilities, fascinated by this world, fascinated also by working hard for my country,” he says. “Twice during my service I was part of the team that won the Israel Defence Prize, which is for outstanding achievements in the technology space.

“The slogan of our unit was ‘Make the Impossible Possible’,” says Dibrov. “It’s written over the door when you enter. You see it every day, and so you kind of live towards it. It’s not just a cliché.”

Twice during my service [at Unit 81] I was part of the team that won the Israel Defence Prize, which is for outstanding achievements in the technology space Yevgeny Dibrov, Armis

But the intelligence forces serve not only as a hub for creative talent, but a hub for team-building. Indeed, of Armis’s first cohort of employees, about 50% served alongside Dibrov himself at Unit 81, and the others worked alongside his co-founder – and chief technology officer (CTO) – Nadir Izrael at Unit 8200.

“People get to know each other, and during my time at Unit 81, we were always talking to alumni that actually started companies and did great things,” says Dibrov. “I remember my team leader in the army was [Wiz CEO] Assaf Rappaport, so we were always meeting some of the alumni from our unit and learning what they had done.

“It makes you excited,” he says. “It makes you think, ‘Okay, when I’m out, here is what I want to do’. I already knew that I wanted to start a company.”

Alongside heading off to study at Technion, the Israel Institute of Technology, between 2010 and 2013, at the end of his service, Dibrov helped set up Adallom, with which Rappaport was also involved. Adallom was a cloud access security brokerage (CASB) specialising in visibility, governance and protection across business applications such as Box, Google Apps, Microsoft Office 365 and Salesforce.

The firm’s Office 365 work clearly stood out, because in September 2015, Microsoft bought the company for over $300m. Just a couple of months later, Dibrov and Izrael started Armis, with the first employees coming on board in February 2016.

Google Maps, but for vulnerable assets

Asked to “explain like I’m five”, Dibrov describes Armis as a cyber exposure management platform that essentially provides its customers with a Google Map of their IT environment, with every single asset accounted for, whether it’s something run-of-the-mill like a laptop or smartphone, to operational technology (OT) like industrial controllers, even medical equipment.

On top of this basic map, Armis provides additional layers covering security risk discovery, monitoring and management, and ultimately, remediation.

“We want to not just allow you to see your risk, but reduce it, whether through patching devices or mitigating threats with different rules in your technology environment,” he says.

Armis was earlier than many to the OT/internet of things (IoT) side of security, mapping it as a factor early on in its history, before the topic really started to hit mainstream security conversations about six or seven years ago. What was the spark that led Dibrov to make this bet?

“We really started from talking to a lot of customers, talking to a lot of CIOs, and we were hearing about the explosion of connected devices,” he explains. “We looked at the variety of different environments and we saw there was a gap.

“On the one hand, you have laptops and servers that are covered by your antivirus or next-gen antivirus, and then you have everything else. And then everything else changes in different industries. If you look at an airport, they have a big gap around a lot of operational technology stuff. They have different distribution centres, logistics centres and more. They have datacentres. They have buildings with building management systems.”

At about the same time, incidents such as NotPetya and WannaCry were exposing the precarious security of such environments – particularly in healthcare settings – and this helped push people towards a more holistic view of cyber security.

Security teams have no idea what cameras they have, and they’re 90% Chinese, potentially exploited with backdoors, and often in the most critical environments Yevgeny Dibrov, Armis

“It was a huge push across the board,” says Dibrov. “Everyone suddenly understood that they needed to have visibility into what they have in these environments – because imagine if I’m an attacker, why would I attack a laptop if the laptop has 50 agents on it? I attack the most vulnerable thing, and that’s usually devices that don’t run any agents or antivirus, devices that are mostly not updated or cannot be patched, and a bunch of old XP machines in those areas.

“These devices are often the most important in the organisation. Look at a hospital. How can you compare the importance of a laptop versus an MRI scanner?”

Customers took to this like ducks to water, and today Armis works with over 35% of the Fortune 100.

From day-to-day there is no such thing as a typical customer, says Dibrov, but they tend to be larger, distributed organisations with highly complex environments and a lot of devices. Armis claims currently to have approximately 5.3 billion connected devices in harness.

What’s the weirdest ‘thing’ he ever found? “We have things like cars that connect to the company network, to wireless air fryers – we see those a lot. And the amount of types of cameras you would never believe,” says Dibrov. “Security teams have no idea what cameras they have, and they’re 90% Chinese, potentially exploited with backdoors, and often in the most critical environments.”

Like many of its peers, Armis has also been branching out into threat research and frequently publishes its own thought leadership on diverse topics – recent ones include breaking down CISA’s most exploited vulnerabilities and the emergence of DeepSeek.

“We have so much data now, and our customers can benefit from that,” says Dibrov. “We also acquired a company in the space, some super-talented guys who merge a lot of their own data with data we generated to provide early warning, which has been very significant.”

What’s next?

Keeping in touch with Armis’s buyers is a source of pride for Dibrov, who makes a point of frequently checking in with his user advisory board and speaking to six or seven individual customers every day, whether those are long-term existing ones, new ones, or those moving through their procurement or onboarding processes.

“What do they need? What do they think like? What do we need to do different?” says Dibrov. “This is something that is ongoing for us – always listening, always developing, always running fast, and always providing real solutions to real problems.”

Dibrov declares himself particularly paranoid when it comes to the competition, and likes to try to think about 18 months ahead in terms of innovation. “This is something that is always on my mind because that’s the biggest differentiator,” he says. “You need to have first of all the best product, and then to execute from there. That’s what keeps me up at night.”

Armis recently closed a large Series D funding round, raising $200m to take it to a total valuation of over $4bn. And having made two acquisitions in the past 12 months – Silk Security in April 2024 and CTCI in February 2025 – Dibrov is open to more, as well as exploring the possibility of an initial public offering (IPO).

Beyond these goals, Dibrov is, of course, keeping a close eye on the developing threat landscape. His views on where things are going tally with those of many other observers.

“We keep seeing a lot of state actors, from Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. We keep seeing them, and we keep seeing a lot of targeting of EMEA and US critical infrastructure and manufacturing,” he says. “We see them sometimes also leveraging AI [artificial intelligence]. My guess is we’ll see that more and more, and defenders really need to be prepared.”

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EY: Industrial companies worldwide stunted in emerging technology use

Many companies from a range of industries worldwide are stuck at a trial stage of emerging technologies usage, according to the sixth annual EY Reimagining industry futures study.

The firm surveyed 1,635 enterprises in November 2024, including 9% in the UK, 6% in Germany and 20% in the US. Respondents were drawn from a range of industries, including financial services (13%), cars and transport (13%), energy, mining and utilities (13%), and manufacturing (12%).

The study has a strong 5G and internet of things (IoT) orientation, as it has done in previous years. The lead authors come from the firm’s telecoms, media and technology (TMT) practices, Rob Atkinson, area managing partner for UK and Ireland TMT; and Adrian Baschnonga, global TMT lead analyst.

The press statement that goes with the report says nearly half (47%) of the respondents are investing in generative artificial intelligence (GenAI), compared with 43% last year.

Some 43% are investing in IoT, and 33% are investing in 5G technology, suggesting an upward trend from 39% and 27% respectively in 2024.

However, the report finds that businesses struggle to convert technology trials into live deployments. Only 1% of organisations have active deployments of GenAI. And while IoT investment seems to be rising year-on-year, the proportion of businesses with active IoT deployments is in decline, slipping to 16% this year compared with 19% in 2024.

Active deployments of edge computing are also flat year-on-year, at 22%.

CEOs get more into technology selection

The report finds decision-making inside enterprises is spreading out across the C-suite, with 49% of CEOs now involved in emerging technology strategy, including in choice of suppliers. Organisations where the CEO is a key decision-maker are further along, the report found.

Over half (51%) of businesses with CEOs involved in new technology decisions are investing in GenAI, compared with 44% of organisations where the CEO is less involved.

“As well as posing a challenge to unlocking long-term value, a failure to progress beyond the trial phase means businesses risk missing out on the combined impact of different technologies deployed together, an area where four in five (79%) organisations are looking to achieve more,” said Atkinson. “There could also be a danger that too many emerging technologies initiatives will be conducted in isolation, limiting the resulting business benefits.”

The report discovered that respondents are limitedly aware of what IT suppliers have on offer.

Some 73% said they need a better understanding of the changing supplier landscape. EY comments that this reflects “an environment where collaborative ecosystems featuring alliances between different technology providers are becoming the norm”.

More than half (56%) the respondents believe they lack awareness of their technology suppliers’ partners. Less than a third of organisations have high awareness of new mobile technology capabilities such as network application programming interfaces (32%) and network slicing (26%).

“Organisations view ecosystem collaboration as a route to access new skills and capabilities but lack understanding of changing supplier ecosystems,” said Baschnonga. “With many companies under pressure to consolidate vendors, suppliers should prioritise their ecosystem and alliance strategies by concentrating on key partners and adapting their operating models and go-to-market approaches accordingly.”

The report found the ability to scale and integrate different technologies is important to one in four (25%) of those surveyed.

“The intention to focus spending on a smaller number of key suppliers makes it even more important that ICT providers present them as effective ecosystem orchestrators, able to provide end-to-end solutions with the assistance of partners and intermediaries,” said Atkinson. “As part of this, suppliers should take care to underline capabilities that extend beyond their core products.

“While enterprises remain committed to embracing leading-edge technologies like GenAI, IoT and 5G, they are facing challenges in translating their investments into real business value,” he said. “Now is the time for IoT suppliers to reposition themselves as holistic partners to their business customers and help them realise the full benefits of their spending on digital transformation.”

In the report itself, the authors say: “This year’s findings show that organisations across all sectors remain committed to investing in emerging technologies to transform their operations – but that issues around scalability and legacy integration are top of mind. Meanwhile, ICT vendors need to pay close attention to enterprises’ increasing focus on security and growing demand for ecosystem orchestration.”

Businesses dimly aware of datacentre environmental impact

They also pick out sustainability as an increasingly relevant theme for enterprise IT, especially with regard to datacentres. “Sustainability factors increasingly weigh on decisions about emerging technology investments, with organisations more sensitive than before to the potentially ambivalent role of new technologies in the decarbonisation agenda.

Datacentres, the report’s authors comment, are an area of low environmental, social, and governance awareness for businesses. Half the organisations surveyed are unaware of their datacentres’ emissions profiles.

Respondents are looking at a range of GenAI use cases, with no standout preferences, the report found. Some 50% of businesses see cyber security and data protection as a leading GenAI impediment, while 46% said a need to improve data governance to combat risks concerning data accuracy and ethics would be critical to future implementations.

Data governance scores highest among manufacturers (46%) as a GenAI concern, while capturing productivity gains ranks top among EY’s respondents in the consumer (48%) and energy (47%) sectors.

Across all sectors, the most favoured GenAI use cases are software development, customer service and employee training or collaboration. However, financial services, healthcare and manufacturing respondents rated predictive or real-time operations and supply chain management as top-five GenAI use cases.

Upskilling and more collaboration

The report says the two most important changes that organisations can make are employee upskilling and deeper collaboration across business functions.

On a country level, education and employee upskilling is highly ranked by German respondents (36%), while deeper collaboration between business functions leads as an action among Chinese businesses (31%).

Elsewhere, Indian (20%) and Japanese (18%) businesses are most likely to prioritise collaboration with suppliers.

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Foodora tests drone and robot deliveries in Sweden

Foodora Norway, the Oslo-based subsidiary of online quick-commerce (Q-commerce) food delivery brand Foodora Group, has partnered with Nordic communications company Tele2 to pilot test home deliveries using robots and drones supported by 5G internet of things (IoT) technology.

The Stockholm metropolitan area was chosen as the test location for the ground robot and drone delivery trials. The Doora robot will be used in the ground tests while the drone trials are being conducted as part of the parallel Foodora Air project.  

A subsidiary of Berlin-based Delivery Hero, Foodora is currently present in Norway, Sweden and Finland, where the company delivers restaurant food, groceries and other consumer goods using cars and bicycles. Foodora also operates in Austria , Hungary and Czechia.

The collaboration with Tele2 forms part of Foodora’s two-year plan to roll out GPS-based robot home deliveries across the Nordic countries by in 2025 and 2026. The ambitious joint venture with Tele2 is focused on self-driving robots and drones connected to 5G and IoT technologies.

Foodora is hoping to roll out commercial Doora ground robot deliveries in Sweden and Norway by year-end 2025, with drone services introduced in 2026.  

Scandinavian countries are lagging behind the US and Finland as regards the development of self-driving robot food delivery services, said Prashant Søegaard, CEO at Foodora Norway. “Our partnership with Tele2 in Sweden will help identify the opportunities, challenges and physical obstacles we face in making Doora work as a viable and popular form of food delivery across Nordic markets,” he added.

In Finland, S-Group and its S-Market supermarket chain partnered with the Tallinn-based Starship Technologies in 2023 to roll out the Starship Robot. The first autonomous S-Market delivery robots (ADRs) became operational in selected towns during December 2023. Monitored in real-time for disruptions to service, the electric-powered Starship ADRs use artificial intelligence (AI) and GPS to plan routes and complete delivery missions.

Mobile app

The Starship Robot platform, over the five-month operating period to 30 May 2024, delivered 150,000 orders to households. Working off S-Market’s dedicated home delivery mobile app, the service had linked to an initial 100 S-Market grocery stores by the end of November.

The platform currently serves 14 towns and cities across Finland , including Helsinki , Tampere and Espoo . S-Group is estimating full-year 2024 deliveries exceeding 400,000 homes.

Additionally, S-Market is recording downloads of over 20,000 per month for the home delivery app, said Tiina Meyer, a senior business developer of retail ecommerce at S-Group.  

“The robot delivery service is a major retailing innovation boosting our grocery business,” she said. “Because of its convenience, it’s hugely popular. Customers appreciate the convenience of this new technology, the speed at which their orders are processed and delivered, the aesthetically pleasing robots, and especially enjoy the music the robots play upon delivery.”

Starship Technologies was incorporated in 2014 by Janus Friis and Ahti Heinla, the two Estonian co-founders of Skype. Headquartered in San Francisco , the company operates engineering subsidiaries in Tallinn and Helsinki .

Foodora’s pilot trials of the ground delivery Doora in Sweden include specific tests related to how the robot navigates pedestrian crossings and curbs, as well as how the robot recognises its surroundings and communicates.

Test and evaluation

The Doora and Foodora Air projects will help to test and evaluate the full potential of the delivery systems when connected to Tele2’s 5G network and IoT technology, said Stefan Trampus, the executive vice-president of Tele2 B2B.

“Within this project, we will be able to use the robot delivery concept to look at other industries and areas of use,” he said. “We can track how GPS and IoT function, and look to optimise solutions. The 5G IoT technology is essential for the drones’ smooth operation. The target is to achieve rapid response times and substantial data transfer capabilities to ensure safe delivery management.”

The Doora ground robot is designed to transport food and other products up to a maximum weight of 20kg. The delivery robot has a top speed of 6km (3.72 miles) per hour and a battery life of eight hours, with a four-hour charge.

The Foodora Air project’s core focus is on testing the operability of a fleet of battery-powered drones, utilising 5G technology provided by Tele2, to deliver meals from various restaurants located in the Stockholm suburb of Värmdö. The Nimbi drones, developed by Swedish firm Aerit, are integrated into Foodora Air’s technology platform.

The all-weather certified Nimbi drones used by Foodora Air are able to operate within a maximum delivery range of 21km and emit 2g of carbon dioxide per kilometre. The Nimbi has a maximum payload carrying capacity of 4kg (10lb), and features a proprietary winching system that enables package pick-up and drop-off without the need for supporting infrastructure.

As part of the Foodora Air trial, deliveries are being restricted to customers’ properties, including front and back gardens where packages can be safely lowered by cable from airborne drones.

The results, and shared test data, emanating from the Doora robot and Foodora Air trials in Sweden will help to shape how the company rolls out drone and robot-supported delivery services in Norway , said Søegaard. “We are closely following the tests in Sweden and hope to learn from that experience,” he said. “The data we collect from the project and trials will better inform us about the challenges we face in Norway and need to overcome and solve.”

Foodora has opened a dialogue with public and private players to expand robot delivery services across Norway . The first significant hurdle will be to obtain authorisation from the Norwegian Public Roads Administration (Statens Vegvesen), and local municipalities, ahead of launching autonomous robots, and at a later stage, drones, in Norway.

Foodora is hoping to roll out a robot delivery service in Norway during the first half of 2025, in collaboration with Danish autonomous air and ground vehicle firm Holo.

In August, Holo partnered with Foodora Norway to conduct a demonstration test at Fornebu, a suburb of Oslo , using a six-wheeled delivery robot supplied by California-based Cartken. The Cartken robot is equipped with three 5G modems and connectivity to multiple mobile operators to ensure continuous communication to shield against signal drop-off. The Cartken uses a PIN code system enabling customers to unlock and retrieve food and other deliveries.

Holo also collaborated with Posten , Norway ’s state-controlled postal service, on a pilot trial to test electric-powered delivery robot Ottobot. The robot was supplied by New York-based Ottonomy.IO. The test, which was conducted in the Oslo district of Filipstadkaia in November and December 2022, has so far not resulted in a decision by Postern to procure delivery robot units for commercial use.  

The Ottobot pilot test was run as a partnership project with AMOI, Norway ’s largest digital marketplace that connects specialist retailers, including restaurants, with customers ordering home delivery.

Posten has been something of a trailblazer in Norway as regards the testing of ground robot delivery systems. In 2018, the company conducted a pilot trial in Oslo on the Buddy Mobility autonomous parcel delivery robot. However, high operating costs and low demand for the service resulted in Posten shuttering the project in 2019.

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Custom software and silicon set to define next-gen chips

Confidence in the semiconductor industry’s ability to meet demand is being hindered by geopolitical tensions, international trade restrictions and the push for sovereignty, according to a report from Capgemini. 

Authors of The semiconductor industry in the AI era report warn that as nations compete for control over vital technologies and resources, geopolitical tensions continue to impact the global semiconductor supply chain.

For instance, the flow of components, materials and completed semiconductor products has been hindered by international trade disputes, export restrictions and tariffs. As an example, Capgemini estimated that 14 consumer supply networks that rely on TSMC could be seriously disrupted by any military escalation involving China and Taiwan. Deteriorating US-China ties have also given rise to setbacks in the form of prohibitions on certain products and more stringent controls.

The report, based on a survey of 250 semiconductor firms and 800 “downstream” organisations that use semiconductors in their own products, found that 58% of semiconductor organisations expect higher demand for neural processing units to accompany growth in generative AI (GenAI) adoption. The study also shows that 57% of the chip manufacturers surveyed anticipate an increased need for high-performance chips, and 56% expect to see greater demand for memory-intensive chips, which, according to Capgemini, signals a shift towards advanced processing.

The report shows there is increased demand for custom chips and custom software optimised to run on them.

Jiani Zhang, executive vice-president and chief software officer at Capgemini Engineering, said advanced platforms and software are critical differentiators in the semiconductor industry, driving efficiency and scalability in design, manufacturing and deployment.

“With the growing complexity of AI, IoT [internet of things] and edge computing applications, the ability to integrate domain-specific software with hardware accelerators will define leadership,” she said. “To stay competitive, semiconductor players must embrace co-optimisation across the stack, from chip architecture to application interfaces, ensuring they can meet the escalating demands of data-intensive, low-latency markets.” 

Capgemini said that while the demand for AI chips, custom silicon chips and memory-intensive chips is expected to increase over the next 12 months, the semiconductor industry needs to capitalise on emerging opportunities. These include design and cutting-edge, sustainable fabrication methods, as well as investment in domestic sourcing and nearshoring to enhance stability.

“GenAI is driving accelerated demand for chips, and semiconductor companies face increasing demands from customers who want more personalised and software-centric experiences,” said Brett Bonthron, global high-tech industry leader at Capgemini.

“The industry should see this as an opportunity to ramp-up production and adopt a ‘chip-to-industry’ approach that supports a full-stack, ‘software-first’ set of capabilities,” he added.

“Investment in cutting-edge fabrication methods and design processes powered by AI and GenAI will be key to meet the specialised needs of emerging applications. Equally, it’s crucial that the industry further enhances sustainable manufacturing processes and uses advanced security to safeguard intellectual property.”

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